Official ss rankings feb.3rd

[garrettm]

CIF DIVISIONS:
Red=Southern
Violet=Northern
Lime=Coastal
Blue=Inland
Orange=Eastern
Baby Blue=Central

106:
1. Zahid Valencia - St. John Bosco (09)
2. Johnson Mai - N Torrance (12)
3. Vincent Parra - Northview (10)
4. Gordon McDonald - Calvary Chapel (12)
5. Anthony Soto - Colony (12)
6. Chris Lacayo - Corona Centenniel (10)
7. Roy Galvan - La Quinta (10)
8. Jonathan Atherton - Arroyo (11)
9. Nam Tran - Irvine (12)
HM
Devin Ng - Rosemead (12)
Sammy Sanchez - Santa Ana (10)
Miles Avila-Johnson - Bloomington (10)
Martin Garcia - Laguna Hills (09)
Nick Vega - Villa Park (11)
Andrew Ibarra - Pioneer Valley (10)
Donovan Combe - Damien (12)
Anthony Hernandez - Righetti (11)
Dominic Bacani - Corona Santiago (12)
Randy Howe - Los Alamitos (11)
Joseph Singleton - Valencia (10)

113:
1. George Torres - La Quinta (12)
2. Matt Nader - Canyon (12)
3. Christian Martin - Chino Hills (11)
4. Matt L'Huiller - ML King (11)
5. Johnny Sanchez - Santa Ana (12)
6. Dean Parker - Corona Centennial (10)
7. Nathan Pike - Diamond Bar (11)
8. Sebastian Chavez - Colony (12)
9. Christian Hauser - Capistrano Valley (12)
HM
Kioni Villalobos - Santa Fe (12)
Adrian Manzo - Crespi (11)
AJ McKee - LB Poly (11)
Edgar Delatorre - Fountain Valley (12)
Robbie Standley - Paso Robles (11)
Slaytr Gonzalez - Sultana (12)
Luis Ortiz - Magnolia (12)
Walter Lindo - Sunny Hills (12)
Ritchie Taira - Walnut (12)

120:
1. Dean O'Bourke - Fountain Valley (12)
2. Jordan Gurrola - N Torrance (11)
3. Giovanni Castillo - Corona Centenniel (11)
4. Taylor Hall - Canyon Springs (12)
5. Stuart Malm - Righetti (11)
6. Trent Morris - El Dorado (12)
7. Garrett Myers - Yorba Linda (12)
8. Johnny Zazueta - St. John Bosco (11)
9. Chad Lampe - Dos Pueblos (11)
HM
Adam Alvarado - Calvary Chapel (11)
Trent Smith - Sultana (10)
Garett Myers - Yorba Linda (12)
Craig Chance - Aliso Niguel (11)
Cruz Merritt - Dana Hills (12)
Richie Vaillancourt - Moorpark (11)
Doug Whittemore - Sunny Hills (12)
Hayden Zimmerman - Quartz Hill (12)
Dustin Kirk - Elsinore (11)

126:
1. Anthony Valencia - St. John Bosco (09)
2. Josh Rodriguez - Righetti (12)
3. Peter Palacios - Calvary Chapel (12)
4. Carlos Garcia - Northview (12)
5. Jaime Nunez - Canyon (11)
6. Terrill Sidener - Beaumont (11)
7. Josiah Delgado - Victor Valley (12)
8. Dyllan Ryan - Corona Centenniel (12)
9. John Orta - Corona Santiago (12)
HM
Jesse Calderon - La Quinta (11)
Spencer Glasheen ML King (12)
Jose Guerrero - Western (12)
Casper Sherow - Carter (12)
Josh Cortez - Temecula Valley (09)
Khoa Nguyen - Woodbridge (12)
Gino Roman - El Dorado (10)
Anthony Henson - Apple Valley (12)
Ryan Gonzalez - Sultana (10)

132:
1. Blayne Briceno - Crespi (11)
2. Timmy Maldonado - Los Osos (12)
3. Christian Pagdilao - Corona Centenniel (11)
4. Mike Longo - Calvary Chapel (10)
5. Andre Cabrera - Laguna Hills (11)
6. Nolan Kistler - ML King (10)
7. Michael Sill - Walnut (11)
8. Abe Halterman - Atascadero (12)
9. Brandon Campbell - Simi Valley (12)
HM
Austin Olshefski - Palm Springs (12)
Uzi Owuama - Bloomington (10)
Tony Arellano - Northview (11)
Mario Lopez - Rowland (10)
Jesse Harlan - Temecula Valley (12)
Cody Smith - Santa Margarita (12)
Austin Saito - Ventura (12)
Ronnie Collister – Canyon (11)
John Castellini - San Clemente (11)
Jonathan Swan - Citrus Hill (12)

138:
1. Andrew Schulte - Corona Centenniel (12)
2. Jacob Leon - Alta Loma (12)
3. Daniel Valles - Northview (11)
4. Miguel Ramirez - Laguna Hills (12)
5. Dolin Moninni - Morro Bay (12)
6. Juaquin Collister - Canyon (10)
7. Kevan Garcia - Paso Robles (11)
8. Aaron Negrette - Calvary Chapel (10)
9. Christian Pham - Westminster (12)
HM
Max Quiroz - Newbury Park (11)
Ryan Maldonado - Rosemead (12)
Nathan Mawhinney - Corona Santiago (11)
Joe Micou - Temecula Valley (12)
Daniel Contreras - Santa Fe (12)
Ian Michinock - Aliso Niguel (11)
Amir Hassan - Westlake (11)
Michael Behnke - Arlington (12)
Keith Schwartman - Villa Park (12)

145:
1. Bryan Salinas - Northview (10)
2. Luke Wilson - Righetti (12)
3. Seth Whisner - Rim of the World (12)
4. Eli Mack - Alta Loma (12)
5. Wyond Mills - Laguna Hills (11)
6. Sam Duchene - Simi Valley (12)
7. Alberto Flores - Rosemead (12)
8. Tim Henry - Servite (12)
9. Jon-Bert Dones - Royal (12)
HM
Nick Jazo - Vista Murrieta (12)
Frank Francis - Hesperia (12)
Jorge Medina - Bloomington (12)
Thomas Pegues - Rialto (12)
Michael Lopez - Victor Valley (10)
Steele Escobedo - Fountain Valley (11)
Leonel Mendez - Temecula Valley (11)
Richard Muniz - Corona Centennial (11)
Fisher Keene - Calvary Chapel (12)

152:
1. Javier Arellano - Northview (12)
2. Corey Griego - Sultana (10)
3. Colin Navickas - Marina (11)
4. Louie Delatorre – Temescal Canyon (12)
5. Trevor Behr - So. Hills (12)
6. Matt Brislawn - Villa Park (12)
7. Ryan Soto - Granite Hills (12)
8. Taylor McCormick - La Sierra (12)
9. Austin Braddock - Simi Valley (12)
HM
Jacob Castillo - Brea (12)
Joseph Rodriguez - Alta Loma (12)
Eduardo Ponce - Canyon Springs (12)
Dillon Crouch - Santa Fe (12)
Martin Solorio - Covina (12)
Ritchie Ortiz - Crespi (12)
Carter Armendaraz - Temecula Valley (10)
Jorge Gutierrez - Santa Ana (12)
Joe Applegate - Laguna Hills (11)
Jose Sandoval - Paramount (12)
Aaron Largey - Rio Mesa (12)

160:
1. Joey Davis - Santa Fe (12)
2. Kent Beecham - Morro Bay (12)
3. Jason Newcomer - Laguna Hills (12)
4. Matt Williams - Sultana (11)
5. Brad Christensen - Chapparal (11)
6. Bryan Garcia - Arroyo Valley (12)
7. Harlan Kistler - M L King (11)
8. Steven Lopez - Northview (11)
9. Zackery Douglass - Victor Valley (12)
HM
Edgar Cortez - Westminster (12)
Andrew Powers - Torrance (12)
Carlos Lazo - Crespi (12)
Andrew Brown - Elsinore (12)
Drew Reel - Chino Hills (12)
Darin Pazmino - Arlington (12)
Colton Madrigal - Paso Robles (11)
Devon Dourseau - Canyon Springs (12)
Seth Burchfield - Atascadero (09)

170:
1. Jon Solano - Los Osos (11)
2. Jaime Ruelas - Bishop Union (12)
3. Immanuel Barber - Canyon Springs (11)
4. Robbie Crider - La Sierra (12)
5. Andrew Tiedeman - Palm Springs (12)
6. Greg Meline - Edison (12)
7. Christian Cabrera - Troy (12)
8. Bradley Ojala - West Covina (11)
9. Jonathan Diaz - AB Miller (12)
HM
Logan Arguello - Aliso Niguel (11)
Blake Fifer - Victor Valley (12)
Jon Campos - Santiago Garden Grove (12)
Shaun Donley - Serrano (12)
Austin Welty - Thousand Oaks (12)
Matt Mutt - Oxnard (12)
Micah Macias - Sonora (12)
Brett Sayre - Temecula Valley (10)
Thomas Garcia - Coachella Valley (12)
Ned Estrada - So. Pasadena (12)
Jon Hernandez - Santa Ana (12)

182:
1. Paul Yoo - Cypress (12)
2. Jon Wixom - Chapparal (11)
3. Eddie Bernal - Northview (12)
4. Mason Kumashiro - Los Alamitos (11)
5. Larry Cutbirth - Etiwanda (12)
6. Raymond Sanchez - AB Miller (12)
7. David Medina - Channel Islands (12)
8. Anthony Ballinger - Apple Valley (12)
9. Brody Goens - Chino Hills (12)
HM
Matt Duccasse - Atascadero (12)
Spencer Thiessen - Villa Park (12)
Kenny Porter - Sultana (12)
Anthony Hernandez - Oak Hills (12)
Nick Johnson - Murrieta Valley (11)
Marty Vardanian - La Canada (12)
Gress Lawson - El Dorado (11)
Daniel Moor - Roosevelt (12)
Cole Cook - Corona Centennial (12)
Michael Palafox - Temescal Canyon (12)

195:
1. Robert Marchese - Oak Hills (12)
2. Elder Cruz - La Habra (12)
3. Anthony Flores - Alta Loma (12)
4. William Gockel-Figge - Simi Valley (12)
5. Joe Arellano - Vista Murrieta (12)
6. Armani Baines - Lakeside (12)
7. Juan Hernandez - Capistrano Valley (12)
8. Steven Pappas - El Modena (12)
9. Robert Flores - Westlake (11)
HM
Matt Boesen - W. Torrance (11)
Andrew Bittle - Atascadero (12)
Rogelio Ruiz - Pioneer Valley (11)
Chase Lemmermann - Palm Desert (11)
Keaton Edwards - Granite Hills (11)
Blake Chaves - Santa Ynez (12)
Landon Ray - Corona Santiago (11)
Oscar Martinez - Corona Centenniel (10)
Sean Thompson - Warren (12)

220:
1. JJ Everard - Etiwanda (12)
2. Tyler Smith - Marina (12)
3. Nishan Mood - Alemany (12)
4. Deion Williams - Orange Lutheran (12)
5. Lucas Northrop - Ayala (12)
6. Diego Vasquez - Vista Murrieta (12)
7. Deonte Willis - Paso Robles (12)
8. Zachary Williams - Sultana (12)
9. Nick McKinney - Servite (12)
HM
Anthony Briones - Ramona (12)
Kyle Martin - San Jacinto (11)
Andrew Singer - Moorpark (12)
Josh Jones - Foothill (12)
Brandon Arrieta - Charter Oak (12)
Derrick Jones - Bloomington (10)
Dante Duke - El Dorado (11)
Dalton Duccasse - Dana Hills (12)

HWT:
1. Carl Hulick - Esperanza (12)
2. Nour Abdullatif - Roosevelt (10)
3. Brendan Johnson - Servite (12)
4. Elliot Taylor - Calvary Chapel (12)
5. Robert Chism - Downey (12)
6. Kenneth Clark - Carter (11)
7. Chris Borrayo - Paramount (11)
8. Alex Redmond - Los Alamitos (12)
9. David Trujillo - Villa Park (12)
HM
Erwin Jimenez - Anaheim (12)
Allan Gonzalez - Magnolia (12)
Alejandro Ruelas - Westminster (11)
Edguardo Cardenas - Loara (12)
Matt Thompson - Moorpark (10)
Jeremiah Pele - Sultana (12)
Nick Auxier - Northview (12)
Andy Arias - San Jacinto (12)
Lucas Whetsel - Sonora (12)
Brett Kimball - Nipomo (??)

Expected back in 2012-13
106 #9 Christian Root - Temecula Valley (10)
113 #1 Joseph Dominguez - St. John Bosco (09)
126 #4 Michael Rodriguez - Alta Loma (11)
132 #18 Jacob Beas - Temescal Canyon (11)
152 #7 Arashdeep Gill - Chaminade (11)
152 #16 Carter Armendaraz - Temecula Valley (10)
170 #20 Dylan Bollinger - Sultana (10)
195 #12 Ryan Minoofar - Dana Hills (11)
HWT #15 Justin Gillham - Oak Hills (10)
HWT #16 Mo Faqhi - West Torrance (11)

[BetterMove]

[QUOTE=garrettm;446470]CIF DIVISIONS:
120:[SIZE=4]
1. Dean O'Bourke - Fountain Valley (12)
2. Giovanni Castillo - Corona Centenniel (11)
3. Jordan Gurrola - N Torrance (11)
4. Taylor Hall - Canyon Springs (12)
5. Matt L'Huiller - ML King (11)
6. Chad Lampe - Dos Pueblos (11)

There are some tough matchups all over the place, the 120 Inland CIF really stands out as a tough CIF with 5 of the top 6 ranked wrestlers in the SS. It should be fun to watch. garretm, Thanks for the color coding.

[Coach Vicarious]

Just love the colors! Thanks for your time and effort. What's your prediction on accuracy? 74%? higher?

[Mercado_Travis]

Nice Garrett the color coding is especially helpful! Thank you

[garrettm]

Just love the colors! Thanks for your time and effort. What's your prediction on accuracy? 74%? higher?

Last year, only 4 of the 126 masters placers (9 placers x 14 weight classes) were not on this list...so, roughly 97%. .....now, if you take out the "HM" and try to measure what percentage (of this list's top 9) actually qualify for state, the percentage drops obviously. The good news, is thanks to a lot of help, we were able to get 78% of those correct last year. I honestly don't know if we'll reach that bar again, but we'll see.

When I say a lot of help, I mean it. We get help from Atascadero, So. Hills, Vista Murrieta, Corona Centenniel, Villa Park, Bloomington, Rosemead, Calvary Chapel, Rim of the World, Simi Valley, Hesperia, Oak Hills, and more....the accuracy of these rankings is truly reflective of the help we get, and I hope to get even more next year :) without Steve Stewart in the preseason, I would have gone crazy.

While I'm on this subject, i'm thinking of creating an official ranking committee. If anyone is interested, and is qualified, please send me a P.M. Thinking of meeting 3 times per year to accomplish what we need to. And of course, plenty of emails :)




Btw, can someone get me the years( grade wise) of the kids that I don't have??

[garrettm]

[QUOTE=garrettm;446470]CIF DIVISIONS:
120:[SIZE=4]
1. Dean O'Bourke - Fountain Valley (12)
2. Giovanni Castillo - Corona Centenniel (11)
3. Jordan Gurrola - N Torrance (11)
4. Taylor Hall - Canyon Springs (12)
5. Matt L'Huiller - ML King (11)
6. Chad Lampe - Dos Pueblos (11)

There are some tough matchups all over the place, the 120 Inland CIF really stands out as a tough CIF with 5 of the top 6 ranked wrestlers in the SS. It should be fun to watch. garretm, Thanks for the color coding.



It's quite honestly the toughest CiF at one 1 weight I have seen....

[Andrew_Madrigal2012]

what happened to Anthony Roybal from Hesperia at 106?

[AGDiaz]

Correction: Andrew Ybarra 106 lbs. from Northern Division is spelled Andrew Ibarra (not with "Y") from Pioneer Valley High School.

[Coach BigDave]

I hosted league finals at Sonora and Christian Cabrera of Troy listed at 182 dropped to 170.

[garrettm]

what happened to anthony roybal from hesperia at 106?

issue with kidney infection...sux...kid had a chance to place at state

[garrettm]

Correction: Andrew Ybarra 106 lbs. from Northern Division is spelled Andrew Ibarra (not with "Y") from Pioneer Valley High School.

what year is he??????

[AGDiaz]

Andrew Ibarra is in 10th grade.

[mrcs1]

Pike (diamond bar) pin Martin (chino hills) beat Taira (Walnut) finish ahead of parker (corona centinnel) at the same tournament been in the state rankings all season just something to consider.

[JZ641-57]

Correction: Andrew Ybarra 106 lbs. from Northern Division is spelled Andrew Ibarra (not with "Y") from Pioneer Valley High School.

Pioneer Valley in Santa Maria? Andrew Ibbara? Is this the Lil Andrew Ibarra that was once one of Johnie Martinez's Guadalupe studs?

[iowaride]

Nate Pike is the real deal for sure. Super funky kid with some crazy scrambling abilities. Then throw in that unorthodox shot which seems to be very effective for Pike. Anyhow I agree this kid probably should be ranked #5 or #6 at the 115lbs weight class. Now the question is where do you put Matt L’Huiller who just dropped down this past week? I would say L’Huiller will be put at the #5 spot and Pike the #6 guy on the list. Man I can’t wait for Masters as this weight class should have plenty fireworks period.


Pike (diamond bar) pin Martin (chino hills) beat Taira (Walnut) finish ahead of parker (corona centinnel) at the same tournament been in the state rankings all season just something to consider.

[AGDiaz]

Pioneer Valley in Santa Maria? Andrew Ibbara? Is this the Lil Andrew Ibarra that was once one of Johnie Martinez's Guadalupe studs?

Haha. Yeah, same kid. He took some time off from wrestling. He's back! Took League Finals this last weekend. He's got a great attitude...working hard, setting goals, and having fun.

[garrettm]

Pike (diamond bar) pin Martin (chino hills) beat Taira (Walnut) finish ahead of parker (corona centinnel) at the same tournament been in the state rankings all season just something to consider.

Also lost to Manzo and Ortiz...but ur correct. He should be in there; I thought he was out with an elbow injury...I will put him in there

[mrcs1]

He did have a elbow problem but its pretty much back to normal and you are correct those are his two loses of the season.

[steve glassey]

John Orta Pinnned Carlos Garcia from Northview and Shark Tank. Beat Dillon Ryan and teched then pinned Glasheen in Big 8 finals.

[iowaride]

Orta looked pretty impressive at the Big VIII League finals. Dominating performance over Ryan and Glasheen it wasn’t even close in those matches. Orta looks very seasoned and in my opinion he is the clear favorite to win CIF Individuals.


John Orta Pinnned Carlos Garcia from Northview and Shark Tank. Beat Dillon Ryan and teched then pinned Glasheen in Big 8 finals.

[wrasslinfan]

Garrett, drue bosco from barstow did not wrestle league finals. I believe he injured a shoulder and unfortunately his season is over.

[Andrew_Madrigal2012]

You have Hauser from Capistrano Valley Twice at 113's.

[CA ROLL]

126:
1. Anthony Valencia - St. John Bosco (09)
2. Josh Rodriguez - Righetti (12)
3. Peter Palacios - Calvary Chapel (12)
4. John Orta - Corona Santiago (12)
5. Carlos Garcia - Northview (12)
6. Michael Rodriguez - Alta Loma (11)
7. Jaime Nunez - Canyon (11)
8. Terrill Sidener - Beaumont (11)
9. Josiah Delgado - Victor Valley (12)

Garrett, here's some info that was probably missed. Michael Rodriguez beat Carlos Garcia at the Carter & Nogales Tournament. Thank you for the SS Ranking, always enjoy seeing who's the best of best.

[Andrew_Madrigal2012]

Subastian Chavez - Colony, Pinned Luis Ortiz in the Semi's, & Beat Christian Hauser 8-5 in the finals at CIF Central Section Tonight. :D

[iowaride]

Wanted to congratulate Dyllon Ryan on winning CIF, pulling off the upset of Orta (Santiago) tonight in overtime. Give credit where credit is due right? Yes sir wouldn't want any haters thinking I know it all.


Orta looked pretty impressive at the Big VIII League finals. Dominating performance over Ryan and Glasheen it wasn’t even close in those matches. Orta looks very seasoned and in my opinion he is the clear favorite to win CIF Individuals.

[Andrew_Madrigal2012]

why did Joey Davis Default After His 1st Match? & Took 3rd?

[SUPLEX]

iowaride Did you see the entire match? Weren't you coaching your wrestler in that same round? That match was clearly decided by ref who blatantly did not give points and stopped action when John Orta (Santiago)was in scoring position on several occasions throughout the match .The crowd saw the same thing, they were yelling for points several times and it was not just Santiago fans. Over 2 dozen strangers from crowed walked up to John and told him "you got robbed","you really won that match". This particular ref has a personal vendetta against coach Glassey and should not be using finals matches with Santiago wrestlers to carry out his personal vendetta! Adults should not make kids pay for their animosity toward each other that's just wrong!
You might know it all? but I don't think you saw it all?

[wrestlingdudes]

Joey Davis was disqualified in the match due to a slam

[IEwrestler]

Iowaride, Just like you gave credit where credit is due towards Dyllon. I thank you and it showed some class on your part for congradulating Dyllon on his win yesterday after your first post about Orta at league finals last week. That was your opion and your allowed to have and express. I even think it was mostly true to some degree. Im not going to hide behind my screen name Dyllon is my son, so anyone that knows Dyllon knows me. Eveyone is going to have there thoughts on yesterdays match. I think Orta is a great wrestler and he did beat Dyllon at league finals and he was the man to beat no questions asked. I hope for all of our Big VIII league guys do very well at Masters next weekend and show how good of a league we do have.

[Andrew_Madrigal2012]

106 christian root - Temecula valley didn't qualify for masters, lost to Nam Tran before placing rounds.
126 michael rodriguez - alta loma didn't make weight.
132 john castellini - san clemente beat john swan 7-0
138 jan ramiz - w. torrance didnt qualify for masters.
170 immanuel barber - canyon springs, avenged his loss against robbie crider - la sierra beat him 7-0 then lost to solano - los osos 2-0

[Coach Withrow]

Garret Myers (YL) dec Johnny Zazueta (Sjb) in finals cif

[iowaride]

That is negative my friend I was not coaching anybody during the finals match. Like I said earlier in the week, I felt Orta was the clear favorite to steamroll through CIF. However Ryan attempted more shots than Orta and did what he had to do in order to secure the victory. As far as the refs having a personal vendetta against the Glass Man I'm calling BS. There were two sets of eyes for every finals match. As for parents, coaches, and spectators you never want an official to dictate the outcome of any match so I will agree with you on that point. But don't we tell are kids to go out there and wrestle tough, battle like warriors and never ever leave it up to the refs? I think this has been said countless times to many athletes competing in any sport.The best part for Orta is he will have the opportunity to wrestle next week in Temecula.


iowaride Did you see the entire match? Weren't you coaching your wrestler in that same round? That match was clearly decided by ref who blatantly did not give points and stopped action when John Orta (Santiago)was in scoring position on several occasions throughout the match .The crowd saw the same thing, they were yelling for points several times and it was not just Santiago fans. Over 2 dozen strangers from crowed walked up to John and told him "you got robbed","you really won that match". This particular ref has a personal vendetta against coach Glassey and should not be using finals matches with Santiago wrestlers to carry out his personal vendetta! Adults should not make kids pay for their animosity toward each other that's just wrong!
You might know it all? but I don't think you saw it all?

[iowaride]

My signature says it all for me and it's the words I live by.

(IEwrestler) Iowaride, Just like you gave credit where credit is due towards Dyllon. I thank you and it showed some class on your part for congradulating Dyllon on his win yesterday after your first post about Orta at league finals last week.

[SUPLEX]

Iowaride,Did you not see all the questionable calls and non calls made by the ref ? Did you not hear the majority of crowd yelling for points on all of those calls? Could all those wrestling fans and wrestlers including people from MLK all be wrong? and you be right cuz you know it all? How do you account for the more than 2 dozen spectators and wrestlers that told Orta "YOU GOT ROBBED","YOU REALLY WON THAT MATCH"? I believe YOU would call them INDEPENDENT WITNESSES the strongest kind! Right? Did you see the ref make the coin toss in 2nd rnd it fell for Orta ref then picked it up and tossed it a second time it then fell for Centennial?? Why would he do that? How do you explain that? That's BS and blatant! Since you called "BS" I will give you more proof in Orta vs Glasheen league finals, you were coaching, the same ref was reffing that match Orta had 2 obvious take downs,first was over hooks with an inside trip took Glasheen to his back, 2nd take down under hook with a knee pick to his back also NO POINTS ON EITHER MOVE! do you remember that match how do you explain that? Fortunately that match wasn't close otherwise it would have made a difference in the outcome, like it did here. Why is this same ref reffing both of Ortas finals matches in league and CIF? Correct me if I am wrong but isn't he the one who would assign the matches to the refs? Too much of a coincidence!

[overtiime]

Suplex, Orta is a great wrestler. Take a page our of Ryan's playbook and just prepare for the next encounter. No one in the Big 8 was crying when he won league. Hey, you win some and you lose some. Moreover, Randy Campbell is not on any Ref's Valentine's list (as is Glassy), so your argument that refs are trying to screw your school holds absolutely no weight. To come on the forum and whine that things didn't go your way is awful. Especially, when Ryan out-shot Orta at least 3 shots to every 1 of of his. Best advice I can give you is to tell your boy to bounce back and do his best at Masters, hopefully get him to state and get a good draw. It is funny that you said that MLK wrestlers all believed that Orta won. News flash......, everyone in the BIG 8 and on the second day of CIF rooted against and cheered when any Centennial wrestler lost. That is what happens when you have a dominant squad. Maybe when Campbell retires, then your school will know the feeling of being the "Big Dog on the Block." Until then, stop whining, get your boy ready, and hopefully represent your school and the Big 8 at Masters and at State.

[garrettm]

P.s. Iowaride is not a coach
He's Very knowledgeable, but not a Centenniel coach...although he is a football coach :)

[rydtime]

Garrett, He is a flag football coach! but his nfl team is definitely better than your raiders ( which isn't saying a whole lot) , This is definitely my favorite part of the season, And all this is so miniscule they are all qualifying tournaments until the state tournament, so who cares who beat who until the first weekend of march we will se who is best based on what position they are standing on the podium.

[BetterMove]

so who cares who beat who until the first weekend of march we will see who is best based on what position they are standing on the podium.

Bingo!:)

BTW, he is a legendary JAAF coach in the Terrier Nation:)

[iowaride]

Wing Rt Rip Seattle Motion 21 Trap Zero Read is the call this weekend Garrett. It cracks me up how ol Suplex was upset at me because his boy lost. Fact is I thought Orta was the favorite to win it all at CIF. Ryan was just little bit better on Saturday night. A great wrestling coach once told me “you are never promised tomorrow”. As for rydtime the flag football coach comment really? Funny haha hehe I don’t get it! BetterMove I bleed blue for the Terrier Nation. Funny right?