making weight at divisions

[bill wright]

I heard that a wrestler didn't make weight at 170's and was moved into the 182's.
This may not have happened, my question is "if it did, is this allowed ?
thanks

[Coach Vicarious]

Can't happen

[deptfng]

League tournaments are not required under CIF rules. the league may simply dictate/select the number of wrestlers to advance to Divisionals. What rule dictates they cannot do this? please advise.

[Coach Vicarious]

Your league's constitution dictates the method in which wrestlers qualify, and even money says it it not a Willie Nellie we get to pick method.

[ex-coach]

[QUOTE=Coach Vicarious;451130]Your league's constitution dictates the method in which wrestlers qualify, and even money says it it not a Willie Nellie we get to pick method.[/QUOTE]

You are not correct as far as weight class, a wrestler must weigh-in at League finals to be eligible for that weight class at the CIF individual tournament, the league tournament director must certify this. This is part of the John Azevedo rule from when two of his wrestlers did not make weight and the league still submitted their names as CIF qualifiers. The league tournament director must also certify that all wrestlers are in the correct weight class. While the league may send any wrestler it wants using whatever method that appears in it's league constitution, each individual wrestler must establish his weight class at the league tournament and it can not be altered after weigh-ins by anyone. The CIF duals are different and a wrestler may wrestle any weight class the regular weigh-in procedures allow.

[legs2win]

Tom
Wouldn'taking weight at 172 also constitute making the higher weight classes

[ex-coach]

No, one can only wrestle in League finals at one weight class, one goes the weight one wrestles at, it is done. One can weigh-in at 172 and wrestle 182, but once he wrestles 182, he has certified his weight for the Individual championships, it is a SS rule. You used the term "higher weight classes" and that is also incorrect since one can only wrestle one weight above his natural weight at any event, regular season or post season.

[dpagliughi]

[QUOTE=ex-coach;451149]You are not correct as far as weight class, a wrestler must weigh-in at League finals to be eligible for that weight class at the CIF individual tournament, the league tournament director must certify this. This is part of the John Azevedo rule from when two of his wrestlers did not make weight and the league still submitted their names as CIF qualifiers. The league tournament director must also certify that all wrestlers are in the correct weight class. While the league may send any wrestler it wants using whatever method that appears in it's league constitution, each individual wrestler must establish his weight class at the league tournament and it can not be altered after weigh-ins by anyone. The CIF duals are different and a wrestler may wrestle any weight class the regular weigh-in procedures allow.

is it true that you can only wrestle(@CIF Ind.) 1 weight class below that which you wrestled @ CIF Duals? (ex: we weighed seth whisner in @147 and he won leagues@that weight. next week for Duals, we weigh him in @149, but were unable to chase paramount's sandoval to 64's because we were told he would then not be able to wrestle 147's @individuals). if true, why? what does one have to do with the other? he already qualified @47's. what's the difference what weight he wrestles @duals? i feel this greatly hampered our ability to perhaps win the meet

[QH_Coach]

When a wrestler weighs in, he or she only qualifies for the weight which they weigh in at and the weight class above. In your example, Whisner was eligible for the 149 and the 156 weight classes only. If he had weighed in at 149.1, he would have qualified for the 156 and 164 weight classes.

T-

[ex-coach]

[QUOTE=dpagliughi;451476][QUOTE=ex-coach;451149]You are not correct as far as weight class, a wrestler must weigh-in at League finals to be eligible for that weight class at the CIF individual tournament, the league tournament director must certify this. This is part of the John Azevedo rule from when two of his wrestlers did not make weight and the league still submitted their names as CIF qualifiers. The league tournament director must also certify that all wrestlers are in the correct weight class. While the league may send any wrestler it wants using whatever method that appears in it's league constitution, each individual wrestler must establish his weight class at the league tournament and it can not be altered after weigh-ins by anyone. The CIF duals are different and a wrestler may wrestle any weight class the regular weigh-in procedures allow.



is it true that you can only wrestle(@CIF Ind.) 1 weight class below that which you wrestled @ CIF Duals? (ex: we weighed seth whisner in @147 and he won leagues@that weight. next week for Duals, we weigh him in @149, but were unable to chase paramount's sandoval to 64's because we were told he would then not be able to wrestle 147's @individuals). if true, why? what does one have to do with the other? he already qualified @47's. what's the difference what weight he wrestles @duals? i feel this greatly hampered our ability to perhaps win the meet[/QUOTE]


Trevors example is right on, it is the weight a wrestler weighs-in at for that day and for that competetion. There was a time when what you described was a rule, but it has since been changed to reflect a kids actual weight. Anytime a wrester weighs-in and wrestles, he or she can only wrestle the weight class their alpha sheet qualifies them for and no lower even if the wrestler actually weigh-ins at a lower weight, and yes, one weight above. Here is where it gets somewhat complicated. A wrestler weigh-in at 113, but his alpha sheet says he can only wrestle at 120, because he weigh in at a lower weight class, he can only go wrestle at 120 because of his actual weight, even though he can not wrestle at 113's.